Gov't healthcare already upon us?

by andy

Link: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/04/govt-pay-half-health-costs/

Gov’t to Pay More Than Half of U.S. Health Costs

For all the hue and cry over a government takeover of health care, it’s happening anyway.

Federal and state programs will pay slightly more than half the tab for health care purchased in the United States by 2012, says a report by Medicare number crunchers released Thursday.

That’s even if President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul wastes away in congressional limbo. Long in coming, the shift to a health care sector dominated by government is being speeded up by the deep economic recession and the aging of the Baby Boomers, millions of whom will soon start signing up for Medicare.

“This does mark a pretty stark jump in the data,” said Christopher Truffer of Medicare’s Office of the Actuary, which prepared the analysis published in the journal Health Affairs.

The tipping point is likely to come next year, Truffer said. For technical reasons, the report assumes that Congress is going to allow Medicare to cut doctor fees by 20 percent later this year, as required by a 1990s budget law. But lawmakers have routinely waived such cuts, and they’re not likely to allow them in an election year. So government probably will end up picking up most of the nation’s medical costs in 2011, instead of 2012.

More detail here: http://www.usnews.com/mobile/articles_mobile/government-to-pay-for-more-than-half-of-us-health-care-costs/index.html

As jobless Americans lost private health insurance coverage and joined the Medicaid rolls during the recession, U.S. health spending jumped 5.7 percent to $2.5 trillion in 2009, government projections show.

That means that American taxpayers will foot the bill for more than half of U.S. health care expenditure by 2012, the report’s authors said.

Overall, health care’s share of the gross domestic product (GDP) – a measure of the value of goods and services produced in the United States – climbed 1.1 percentage points to 17.3 percent in 2009.

That’s the largest one-year increase since 1960, when officials began tracking total U.S. health care spending, analysts noted in a report published online Feb. 4 by the journal Health Affairs.

14 comments

Comment from: andy [Member]
Notice that I used a Fox link, just to satisfy you naysayers!
02/05/10 @ 13:24
Comment from: KPA [Member] Email
Between this post and mine about unions below, I'm beginning to think we'll see a unicorn before any sign of a "smaller government". No real surprise, current politics and politicians are full of mythology.

But I happen to think like Gringrich does, government is the next "bubble".

Or it may be the head of the last admistration is right, when Cheney told Paul ONeill; "Defitcits don't matter". http://www.ontheissues.org/2004/Dick_Cheney_Budget_+_Economy.htm

Of course they really don't when we as a country can back them up, but now China holds that debt. Wonder what they think about the growth of our government? What is the ROI to China for our largess?
02/05/10 @ 14:52
Comment from: Floyd the Barber [Visitor]
Obama Care. The working public is going to pay for all of the people that dont wont to get out of bed and go to work. Sounds great and cant wait. Hopefully us working class will get some sort of tax deductions for such a charitable cause.
02/06/10 @ 09:39
Comment from: KPA [Member] Email
floyd, as andy points out, we already are. The people you mention are the most costly, as many of them get their health care thru the emergency room where they know they won't be turned away.

Still doesn't change the fact many taxpayers who are already funding this, are running a tighter household budget than they were a few years ago, and can't afford the current subsidy. Much less an increase.
02/06/10 @ 09:55
Comment from: yellowdog [Member]
So millions of people cannot find a job and they are demonized for not having health insurance. Then for a decade the wages of people who do have jobs have fallen (as has their ability to pay for health coverage or to save money) and many have lost their health insurance. Not by coincidence, the percentage of private sector employees with unions has fallen, along with wages and benefits. And manufacturing jobs which used to pay relatively well are moved offshore by the same private sector corporations that oppose unions and health care reform.

Medicare for everybody would help with both the economic and health care problems facing people and the country but the corporations are opposed. Less understandably, so are people who will welcome and like Medicare when they get old enough but resist extending it universally now.

"Keep your grubbly government hands off my medicare!"

02/06/10 @ 13:00
Comment from: KPA [Member] Email
I don't doubt the situation or the economics, but the both the Senate and House plans are not the answer.
02/06/10 @ 14:57
Comment from: Floyd the Barber [Visitor]
i like youtwo!
02/06/10 @ 16:24
"... keep your grubbly government hands off my medicare ..."

Why is it that whenever anyone or any political official tries to enact legislation to help keep the poorest of the poor in our country from brandishing pitchforks and torches; they immediately scream SOCIALISUM?!?!?

P.S. Nashville looks more like a Nathan Bedford Forrest re-union, than a representative group of average Americans, this week. Go Maverick, Go, Baby!
02/06/10 @ 21:01
Comment from: PB [Visitor]
I find it sad that Americans don't try and help Americans...Watch the TV, there are numerous commercials to help those Haiti victims, what about helping our own people. I understand Floyd there are alot of people who lay in bed and refuse to look for a job, but there are alot of people out there with families who lost there jobs and would love to have another one. So do we punish them because of lazy people?

We have become such a selfish, greedy nation that we tend to overlook people from our own country. Some of these so called naysayers need to spend an evening or two in a few soup kitchens getting to know some of these people looking for handouts. They're really just people like you and me who have hit a bad patch in their lives and need some help. Instead most people in our country turn a blind eye.
02/08/10 @ 10:09
Comment from: yellowdog [Member]
PB says: "They're really just people like you and me who have hit a bad patch in their lives and need some help. Instead most people in our country turn a blind eye."

If we do not turn a blind eye, then we might have to wonder why things here are similar to things in "foreign" lands that do not share "our values." I mean some of our poor are even white people!
02/08/10 @ 11:27
Comment from: hypocrites [Visitor]
Gee did anyone ever stop to think that government being involved in over half of health care, that just maybe government is the problem?
02/08/10 @ 12:30
Comment from: PB [Visitor]
hypocrites, I think the govt is part of the problem but I also think that pharm companies, insurance companies and hospitals are as well..... The rise of cost in medicine plays a large part as to why your bill is so high. Whjy not use generic brand drugs? Hospitals milk the insurance companies which runs up the permiums. My mother was in the hospital right after Christmas and laid there 4 days waiting on the Dr to make a decision while the nurses continued to just "run tests." After 4 days they realized that she needed to be discharged and sent to see a "specialist" who basically said there was nothing wrong that it was more than likely a kidney stone....Wonder how much her insurance compnay had to fork out for that one?

I just think its a shame that a person can't afford health insurance or a trip to the doctors office.
02/08/10 @ 12:47
Sad thing is, all y'all are correct. Ron Paul tells us that the Chinese wouldn't waste their tyme putting images of Mao Tse Tung on the new US dollar bill, because the process itself would be worth more than the piece of paper it printed on. He IS correct. Seen a lot of sell your gold commercials lately?

Pro-Labour is ALSO correct. Without a self-sustained manufacturing base--building and creating the products we purchase here, then our nation will continue this climb to the bottom, of both technology and wealth building (playing with numbers in ANY stock market does NOT build true wealth).

Getting the Libertarians and Labour (L&L) to agree that Astronomical Healthcare prices are destroying ANY opportunity to create small companies here, would be a feat only the brave of heart would ever attempt.

Both L&L agree that for sister Sarrah to preach about opening up a 5th theatre of operations in Iran, is paramount to wiping away any chance of our descendents' success as a sovreign nation.

But what is the Libertarian angle on Isolationism and Tariffs?
02/08/10 @ 15:08
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03/24/10 @ 16:46

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